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Jesus Was Severely Beaten

CHURCH POSITION

“Some began to spit on him, to blindfold him, and to strike him, saying to him ‘Prophesy!’ The guards also took him over and beat him.” (Mark 14:65)

"And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe. And they platted a crown of thorns and put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand; and they kneeled down before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews! And they spat upon him, and took the reed and smote him on the head." (Matthew 27:28-30)

"Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him. And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and arrayed him in a purple garment; and they came unto him, and said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they struck him with their hands." (John 19:1-3)

SCHOLARS

“...if Jesus suffered, it was from the taunts rather than from the blows, from the assault rather on his dignity than on his body." (Cohn, 1963, p. 202)

"The basic message transposed onto Jesus [in Mel Gibson's film "The Passion"] struck me as offensive. In this case it was something like "More pain, more gain": people have a lot of sins to atone for, so Jesus goes at it with full vigor, being beaten to a bloody pulp before our very eyes....This strikes me as at odds with how the Gospels portray Jesus' last hours, and I can't help but find the message a bit repulsive." (Ehrman, 2004, p. 187)

THE REALITY

Mel Gibson notwithstanding, there is very little evidence that Jesus suffered from a severe beating before crucifixion. For example, Luke says that on the night before “the men who were holding Jesus began to mock him and beat him (22:63).” Matthew says that: “and after flogging Jesus, he handed him over to be crucified (27:26).” John notes that Jesus was “flogged” (19:1) and that the guards were “striking him on the face (19:3).” Mark’s description is the most harsh – “some began to spit on him, to blindfold him, and to strike him, saying to him, ‘Prophesy’. The guards also took him over and beat him (14:65).” Later, he notes: “So Pilate, wishing to satisfy the crowd, released Barabbas for them; and after flogging Jesus, he handed him over to be crucified (15:15).”

 

Needless to say, being struck in the face, beaten, and flogged is not very gentle treatment. But the issue is not whether Jesus was beaten (which he obviously was), the issue is whether the perception that he was severely beaten (ala The Passion) is true.  In those days there were two types of instruments used to flog hapless victims – the flagella which was an ordinary leather strap, and the flagra, which was an iron chain with spikes made of iron or bone.  The more severe instrument, the flagra, was not in general use and was reserved for slaves who committed heinous crimes. Most likely Jesus would have been punished with the flagella (or strap) since there is no indication that the punishment in this case was life threatening or even that he was seriously injured as a result [1]. Indeed, the Gospel of John indicates that Jesus was “carrying the cross by himself (19:17)” which clearly implies that he was not injured, and none of the other Gospel writers who claim that Simon of Cyrene carried the cross (Luke 23:26; Mark 15:21; Matthew: 27:32), indicate that he carried the cross because Jesus was unable to do so. Moreover, while on the cross, Jesus is conscious and sufficiently self-possessed to carry on conversations with the other two victims, address his mother and inquire after her future treatment, etc. Obviously his physical punishment had not incapacitated him.

 

In an extensive analysis of the laws and customs surrounding the trial and death of Jesus, Israeli Supreme Court Justice Haim Cohn concluded: “if Jesus suffered, it was from the taunts rather than from the blows, from the assault rather on his dignity than on his body (p. 202).” He continues: “no dependable tradition or information exists that there were any aftereffects, wounds, or other external injury…(p. 202).”

 

Had Jesus’ punishment been great, the New Testament writers would surely have noted it.  For example, compare those descriptions of Jesus’ treatment with the treatment of Polycarp: “…their skin was ripped to shreds by whips, revealing the very anatomy of their flesh, down to the inner veins and arteries…(2:2).” Clearly, Jesus’ punishment did not rise to these standards. Cohn affirms this position. He notes: “…if the evangelists did not describe the pitiable condition of a scourged Jesus, it was because there was none, and that he was in fact unscathed, his outward appearance unchanged (p. 202).”

 

While there is no evidence that Jesus was harshly treated, there is some evidence to the contrary, that his treatment was stellar. The Gospel of Nicodemus, dated to the Fourth Century [2], claims that Pilate instructed his soldiers: “Let Jesus be brought with gentleness (I, 1-2).” Most scholars dismiss the validity of this document, as shall we, however, it is worth noting. But Cohn (1963), in his exhaustive examination of the trial of Jesus, noted: “not only were Jesus’ hands not bound to the beams of the cross, but he had not even to bear it himself [3] (p. 201).” In addition, he noted: “not only was he not divested in nakedness, but he was given his own garments when led to the place of crucifixion…[and]…the usual beatings on the way were not his portion either (p. 207).”  He concluded: “the soldiers must have taken pity on him (p. 201).”

Updated 11/05/2006


[1] There are cases reported in Josephus in which a victim of flogging died during the process, although these cases were rare. As a prelude to crucifixion, flogging was designed to make the victim less likely to resist, and the extent of the flogging was left to the Roman Lictors to decide. Given Jesus’ demeanor, it undoubtedly did not call for an extensive flogging to get Jesus to be subservient.

[2] Mention of the Acts of Pilate, that constitute the bulk of the Gospel of Nicodemus, was referred to centuries earlier by Justin Martyr, Tertullian, and Eusebius; however, the earliest copy of the document is traditionally ascribed to 425 A.D.

[3] The normal procedure would have been to bind the hands to the cross and whip the victim while he carried the cross.

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Date:     2006-06-09 Username:   drj Helpful:   3 of 3
If he was tried and punished by the Romans, it certainly wasn't as a common criminal, for whom the flagra was reserved. Moreover, none of the post-beating indications demonstrate such a severe punishment (e.g., he walks by himself, carries the cross by himelf in some accounts, is fully conscious on the cross, carries on conversations, etc.) Scourging by the flagra could kill a person (and sometimes did). Nothing in the gospels leads to the conclusion that Jesus was near death as a result of his scourging.
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Date:     2006-07-27 Username:   drj Helpful:   1 of 1
Hi Ti. Of course you're right. I don't mean to belittle the experience. In fact I was once held a "prisoner of war" in an African prison in 1978 and so I am acutely familiar with torture from the perspective of the person who is being beaten. I'm sure the experience was terrible, but I'm equally sure that Mel Gibson's portrayal of the incident was disproportionately gruesome.
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Date:     2006-08-11 Username:   drj Helpful:   0 of 0
Hi Matt, It has nothing to do with the subject of this website. E-mail me and I will be happy to share the details with you.
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Date:     2006-08-26 Username:   drj Helpful:   1 of 1
Hi. For some reason your name didn't appear. In any event, the material you present doesn't contradict antyhing that's been said. It's true that Jesus was beaten and I'm sure no one would want to go through what he went through. The issue is whether the beating was as severe as some people portray it, and the typical portrayal can be seen in Mel Gibson's The Passion, in which Jesus is beaten severely. There simply is no evidence for that. In your comment you note that Herod "tried mockery" and put a robe on him, Pilate "punished him by the scourge", and he was stripped and a crown of thorns placed on his head. All of this is included in my original comment, so we have no disagreements and I don't understand your reference to "false accusations". You have failed to deal with any of the issues raised (e.g., Jesus is apparently very conscious on the cross, some accounts say he carried the cross the entire way, none of the accounts mentions anything about Jesus being badly injured from the beatings, etc.).
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Date:     2006-08-26 Username:   puglia Helpful:   0 of 1
Ok I appologize. I guess i didnt think I would have to bring a definition out to prove my point. I thought you might look a little deeper. One of your main resources refers to none of the evangelist mentioning a scourged Jesus!! Thats not true! John 19:1, Mark 15:15, Matthew 27:26 Also your evidence to the contrary mentions as well a scourged Jesus!The Gospel of Nicodemus(part I 9:5) scourge (skûrj) pronunciation n. 1. A source of widespread dreadful affliction and devastation such as that caused by pestilence or war. 2. A means of inflicting severe suffering, vengeance, or punishment. 3. A whip used to inflict punishment. tr.v., scourged, scourg·ing, scourg·es. 1. To afflict with severe or widespread suffering and devastation; ravage. 2. To chastise severely; excoriate. !!!!!!**************3. To flog.***************!!!!!! So back to your response. Yes, I did deal with the issue raised. Many references were made to a severely beaten or SCOURGED Jesus! Read the accounts yourself dont just take anothers word on the Bible. Its not like there are not any available. Then promote YOUR views based on the knowledge you have aquired. I'm not meaning to upset you. I just want you to know that your words are misleading many people when they are not accurate. You made the forum for response, and thats what I am doing. Go In Peace
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Date:     2006-08-26 Username:   drj Helpful:   1 of 1
Hi Puglia. You're not upsetting me at all. Comments such as yours help everyone do a better job at getting at the truth, so I welcome all comments. It makes me go back and triple check everything I write, so please have no hesitations in disagreeing with me. Occasionally someone raises a very good point and I modify one of the positions taken, so I am open to new input. Or I edit the comment to take into account some issue that obviously wasn't clear enough before. So thank you. Anyhow, in this case, scourge and flog are used interchangibly in the Bible, and you are using the word scourge and I am using the word flog. For example, you quote John 19:1 - "flogged" is used in the New International Version, scourged is used in the New American Standard, etc. In the Worldwide English they simply say: "Pilate took Jesus and had him beaten". In Mark 15:15 "flogged" is used in New International, "scourged" is used in New American Standard, etc. So there is no consistency in the use of the names flogged, scourged, or beaten. Suffice it to say we both agree that he was beaten and hit with a whip. The issue at hand is what consequence this had. How badly beaten was he? None of the sources you quote (including Nicodemus) say the word "seriously" or "severely" or "badly". Go back and read them. I don't have the space to reproduce them here, but you can go to earlychristianwritings.com and find them all. Lacking an adverb in any of the accounts, we must infer the severity of the beating from the consequences. After being beaten, Jesus can walk, talk, think, and in some cases he is strong enough to carry a cross. He talks to Pilate, carries on conversations with people along the route, talks to his crucifiers, and even carries on conversations while on the cross. No Gospel writer comments on Jesus' physical state after the flogging, as we see in the description of the martyrdom of Polycarp. So there is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus was severely beaten. Beaten, yes. Beaten to the point of losing consciousness? No. Beaten to the point of being unable to walk? No. Broken Bones? Not that we know of. Beaten to the point of being unable to talk or think? No.
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Date:     2006-08-27 Username:   puglia Helpful:   0 of 1
You can choose to belive whatever you want. But I didnt use any of the other versions of the Bible. I used the King James. Any how the word Still means SEVERELY BEATEN! No matter how you try to dance around it they did describe how badly Jesus was beaten, by using the word scourged! I cant make you change your mind thats not my intention. My hope is that everyone else who reads this will realize the truth. Besides no-one has ever argued that he could'nt walk or talk. Even the movie the Passion shows that he was still able to do those things. I'm sure it wasnt pleasent for him to do but he did. I'm sure you have suffered great pain at one time and been able to do things you thought impossible. Try to disprove what you like, It will still take FAITH to believe!
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Date:     2006-10-06 Username:   O.B.Jective Helpful:   0 of 0
Hi all, Puglia, in the definitions you gave, #3 is 'a whip used to inflict punishment'. It doesn't say 'severe punishment'. So while scourge CAN mean severely punish(and often does), it doesn't automatically assume so. I will admit that when my wife & I saw "Passion", my reaction was exactly that they had overdone the gore, based on what I'd read in the Bible. I never got the impression that he'd been beaten nearly to death, having to be dragged away, leaving a trail of blood. Thanks folks....just wanted to say my piece....I enjoy the site!
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Date:     2006-10-26 Username:   puglia Helpful:   0 of 1
O.B., like i said anyone is entitled to their own opinion. It just seems that you might be doin a little dance to affirm your beliefs. The definition is the definition. You can pick it apart and twist it any way you choose. The definition still remains the same. On one hand the definition says devistation caused by war. On the other just a whip used to inflict punishment. Well in my view if it means devistation caused by war the infliction by the whip must have been horrific!
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Date:     2006-11-03 Username:   jplant Helpful:   1 of 1
I agree that the brutality was over played in the movie 'The Passion', but have we forgotton that 3 hrs later Jesus died without having to have his bones broken?
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Date:     2006-11-03 Username:   drj Helpful:   0 of 0
Hi J. Could the beatings have weakened him enough to kill him in 3 hours? Maybe. But if that's the case, why didn't the two thieves/zealots who accompanied him also die. They would have received the same pre-execution scourging, and surely they were in worse shape than Jesus, having been arrested for a true crime and having spent time in prison. So if they are still alive and have to have their legs broken to hasten their death, why would you believe that Jesus would be in a weaker state? I don't think it's realistic to expect them to be in good shape and for Jesus to die. As a side bar, many scholars believe that it is Jesus' unlikely death after 3 hours and the subsequent skepticism that prompts John (19:34), the last of the gospels written, to include the story of the spear in the side, which is completely absent from the other three earlier gospels. John is trying to say "Hey. See. He really was dead!" But again, my point is that if the 2 thieves/zealots were not dead (who undoubtedly were treated much worse than Jesus and were living under worse conditions), then Jesus should not have been dead.
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Date:     2006-11-05 Username:   jplant Helpful:   1 of 1
Doesn't it state in Luke 23:16 that Pilot's plan was to chastise him and then release him? Jesus was flogged AND crucified. The others crucified at the same time were not. It was NOT common procedure to flogg and then crucify. The flogging was a ploy by Pilot to try to get him released, but the crowd wouldn't buy it. Luke makes this clear.
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Date:     2006-11-05 Username:   jplant Helpful:   0 of 0
I think Jesus was in a weaker state b/c it was not standard protocol to flogg prisoners before crucifixion. According to Luke 23:16 Pilot planned to flogg Jesus and then release him, hoping that that brutal punishment would appease the crowd. I don't believe the other prisoners were flogged.
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Date:     2006-11-07 Username:   drj Helpful:   1 of 1
Hi J. Luke 23:16 ("I will therefore chastise him, and release him.") is followed by 23:23-24 ("But they [the Jews] were urgent with loud voices, asking that he might be crucified. And their voices prevailed. And Pilate gave sentence that what they asked for should be done.") which shows clearly that in Luke Jesus is not "chastised" at all, but rather led away to be crucified. Luke says nothing about the other prisoners being flogged.
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Date:     2007-03-08 Username:   mojoala Helpful:   2 of 2
No one has yet to mention Isaiah 52:14 According as many were appalled at thee--so marred was his visage unlike that of a man, and his form unlike that of the sons of men-- The underlying Hebrew shows that he was not even recognizable as a man because he was so marred. and go further into the next chapter Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded because of our transgressions, he was crushed because of our iniquities: the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his stripes we were healed.
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Date:     2007-03-09 Username:   drj Helpful:   2 of 3
Hi Mojoala. It's not clear that the Isaiah passages are meant to apply to the crucified Jesus, although it's certainly possible. But the main issue vis-a-vis Isaiah is that it is not applicable to Jesus at all, much less the crucified Jesus. Certain select passages were taken from Isaiah to make the case that Jesus was the sufffering servant, however, a look at the complete passage reveals that it doesn't apply to Jesus. I cover this at length in my book Jesus Who, but here's a brief summary of why Jesus is not the suffering servant described in Isaiah - (1) He was hardly despised and isolated (53:3). In fact, he had thousands of adherents. (2) As far as we know, he never had any illnesses or pains (53:4). (3) He certainly wasn’t regarded as “diseased”, or stricken, or afflicted (53:4). (4) He wasn’t persecuted (53:7). He was arrested, but that hardly qualifies as persecuted. (5) And he certainly wasn’t silent (53:8). (5) He was never in prison (53:9), although he was arrested. (6) He wasn’t imprisoned/ arrested for the transgression of the Jews (53:9), but rather for his claim to be the King of the Jews. (7) His grave/tomb certainly wasn’t with the wicked (53:9), but rather with the rich, since he was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea. These 7 issues show that Jesus does not fit the description of the suffering servant in Isaiah.
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Date:     2007-04-19 Username:   rabbiray1 Helpful:   0 of 4
You must look at this through David's eyes as he wrote in the Psalms 22 Yeshuah was beaten so noone could reconize him even had his beard ripped out by the roots.
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Date:     2007-09-28 Username:   rambux Helpful:   2 of 3
Obviously, the medieval Church had a purpose in trying to 'up the anti' in Jesis' sufferings. However, until the forth century (when Constantine banned crucifiction), the trend wold have been to the opposite. Crucifiction was seen as a shameful thing, and the gospel accounts would have been a combination of theological purpose, and at least telling some elements of the bare truth. I don't think Jesus' inability to carry his cross would have been the kind of detail that gets made up - it was unusual, and contrary to popular belief, the gospels (even Mark) do not dwell on the juicy details of the crucifiction to the extent that some people think. The WM refers to how, in John, Jesus carries the cross himself. However, John's purpose was theological - in John, Jesus is 'God incarnate' and is always in control. A Jesus who collapses runs counter to such an idea. Scholars are more inclined to go for the synoptics (Matthew, Mark & Luke) on this one. I think Jesus' inability to carry the cross stems from a fact which has hardly ever commented on: the crown of thorns. The crown of thorns would have caused a number of puncture marks to the head. As a large amount of blood goes to the head, it would not have taken much of a puncture to cause a serious enough blood loss to make Jesus unable to carry the cross. In the end, I think it's fair to say that Jesus' flogging wold have been similar to that of any other crucifiction victim. I think the severity of movies like Mel Gibson's stem partially from the fact that today, we live in a very soft, cushy society. We scarcely have any concept of physical suffering. A crucifiction - ANY crucifiction - would have been an ugly scene. It was a hideous torture, and some victims took several days to die. Having said that, I don't Jesus sufferings would have been any more severe than that of any other crucified person.
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Date:     2007-10-11 Username:   anorak Helpful:   0 of 3
Of course the son (or rather the "SUN") dies for us. The Sun gives of its heat and energy so that plants may grow, the earth is heated to suitable tempreatures and enlightens the dark. All stars die at some point. Ancient people were not stupid, they knew this. The Crown of Thorns are sun rays. The church believed that a saviour must suffer to make the stakes as high as they could be. The Lost Gospel of Peter states (chap4) "And they brought two malefactors, and they cricufied the Lord between them. BUT HE HELD HIS PEACE, AS THOUGH HAVING NO PAIN" The Gnostic believed that the SPIRIT of the Christ descended into Jesus' body after birth, and left it before he was crucified. Of course the spirit felt no pain...it wasn't there. No pain, No Christ, No Chrisianity (as the church believes christianity should be). Jesus being cruicified between two theives is also symbolic. The thief on the LEFT represents regret of the past, while the RIGHT represents ignorance of the future. (oh and rabbiray...there was no DAVID)
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Date:     2008-02-17 Username:   Pantera Helpful:   1 of 1
Rabbiray - There's nothing in Psalm 22 about beating anyone beyond recognition or pulling out a beard. Those are Mel Gibson fantasies. And why is it so important that an immortal, omnipotent god feigns being a human and pretends to be tortured to death, only to reanimate himself and fly back to his abode in the clouds? It seems like a mummery to insult the absolute human certainty of suffering and death, both of which he presumably deigned.
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Date:     2010-01-17 Username:   Snaggle Helpful:   0 of 0
DRJ there are some huge problems with your arguments: 1.You state that the gospels were all written in the second century-meaning none of the evangelists is an eyewitness or can logically know what Jesus suffered, yet you use the gospel account as "proof" about what Jesus suffered. Do you see the inconsistency here? I agree that none of the evangelist is an eyewitness and they all are making stuff up-meaning they're dishonest too, propagandists rather eyewitnesses or historians collecting the oral Jesus stories. 2. To kill some one during a flogging one needs either to rupture an organ or collapse a major blood vessel, even if you did this they could still live for hours or even days before dying. To do this one either has to want to kill them or be ignorant. These were first century Romans they had the right to punish any non-Roman any way they liked on the spot, so they were very unlike to be ignorant brutes and they would not have wanted to spare him the agonies of the cross either. Even if very severely scourged with the flagra Jesus would have been able to talk and walk. 3. It's next to impossible that either Pontius Pilate or his Roman soldiers would have shown Jesus any mercy. Pilate was extremely brutal. He had before this execution sent these same Roman soldiers into a crowd of peaceful protesters and had them murdered on the Spot. Jesus was not an "innocent". He had come into Jerusalem claiming to be the messiah at passover, he had started a riot in the temple finally many of his close followers were zealots (aka rebels). Any Roman governor, not just an extremely brutal one like Pilate would have crucified Jesus. Palestine was not a flower bed; it was a hotbed of messianic and Zealot rebellion where Romans were daily faced with assassination by sicarii. Anyone like Jesus would have been made an "example" by any Roman governor and this guards would have enjoyed tormenting him to the utmost too.
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Date:     2010-01-20 Username:   DavidGibbs Helpful:   0 of 0
What's the point of arguing over a Myth? The Gospels are made up of Folk lore and Midrash. There are no eye witnesses to anything written in the Gospels. Neither Mathew, Mark, Luke nor John write the Gospels. They were all dead 150 years after the alleged "crucifiction" which is when the Gospels first started to be circulated.
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